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Speaking as someone who worked closely with Eric at IMVU in those early days, his message is simple but it's not always obvious to the people who start companies.

How many times have you heard about entrepreneurs that think they have some grand vision for something that they're certain will change the world, so they go away and spend tons of VC money building something, and then it fails because no one actually wants it? It happens a LOT. Vision clouds judgment VERY often.

Eric taught me that ego gets in the way of finding out what will actually work as a viable business, and that I should question all of my assumptions (and those of the people working around me) about what's right and what's not. The metrics speak for themselves. It doesn't matter how good I think my landing page headline is -- the market will validate that through A/B testing. The trick to figuring out what will be successful is first realizing that your idea is only a hypothesis and has no merit until you validate it with customers.

Eric's and the IMVU team's willingness to let go of assumptions and try different things is the reason why IMVU today isn't a plugin that runs on top of AIM. Even though that was the original idea, it became clear really quickly that it wasn't going to work. Where many entrepreneurs would cling to an unworkable idea until the company burns through all its capital, the team decided that the idea was a failure and moved on to build something that has turned into a business that now makes more than $50mm per year.

I can totally understand the uncomfortable reaction you have, but that's kind of the point. When someone comes around and says "Hey, maybe the way that the establishment thinks things should be done is actually completely wrong," some people are excited and intrigued by the possibilities, and some have an visceral, negative response. Tim Ferriss and Dr. Atkins have both sold a ton of books exploring ideas that sound new and "out there".

I think it's unfair to classify Eric as someone who only has a reputation for "writing books and doing conferences". The "Lean Startup movement" is about keeping companies alive through the perils of infancy that usually lead to early destruction. Ask anyone who worked with Eric at IMVU and they will tell you that his passion for experimentation and validation of ideas, and his framework for building a scalable continuous deployment shop are still very much alive even after his departure. If you want to know more about the culture at IMVU, I'd be happy to comment on it.



> When someone comes around and says "Hey, maybe the way that the establishment thinks things should be done is actually completely wrong," some people are excited and intrigued by the possibilities, and some have an visceral, negative response.

He (staunch) is not 'scared of the new ideas' - quite the contrary, he says they're pretty standard for anyone with a clue.

Perhaps the point of this book, if you read all the way down, where he talks about why he went the traditional publishing route, is that it's to spread his message to people outside sites like this, to people who are not so attuned to the latest goings on in the world of startups.

Which, paradoxically, might mean that it's not a good buy for most of us in that perhaps he's just repeating stuff we've already read?


Hey, David, didn't you work with Eric at there.com? Were any of the lean practices in their infancy yet?


As far as I know, I've never met the guy. I did my time in the Bay Area in 99-00 (Linuxcare) and again in 02-03 (freelancing). I've never heard of 'there.com' either.


Ah, well, I had you confused with another Daved W then.

As to whether the book is a good buy for insiders, I say it is. My introduction to startups was when Eric hired me at IMVU, so I was 'brought up' the Lean way before it was cool (ha!)

Ever since IMVU I have seen company after company think they get it when they don't. They understand the ideas but don't practice them while thinking they do. It's easy to say you'll start measuring and experimenting once you're done with the Really Important Stuff.

I'm not saying those companies should buy Eric's book, although obviously they should. I'm saying I'm buying it too so I can have something to point to when I have to drag someone kicking and screaming to the realizatiom that they're doing it wrong even though they preach Lean the whole time.

I'm sorry for saying 'Lean' so much. I know the word is overused. The practice itself is not overused.




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